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Откуда: Англия, Бристоль
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Отправлено: 30.10.06 02:38. Заголовок: NKVD I.D book
Can anyone tell me anything about this I.D book, and what branch of the NKVD the owner was in?
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| НКВД СССРКрасноармеец Администратор форума
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Откуда: Россия, Москва
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Отправлено: 30.10.06 12:55. Заголовок: Re:
I don't know how to translate it correctly. A verbatim translation is the Department of Special sections. It means an army security service. Also I don't know, is it original or fake...
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| НКВД СССРЛейтенант ГБ Администратор форума
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Откуда: Союз ССР, Москва
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Отправлено: 30.10.06 14:53. Заголовок: Re:
Rob, I think you know the "СМЕРШ" - "SMERSH" that meant "Cмерть шпионам" - "Death to the spyes"? This was counter-intelligence service in Red Army, the same service was in NKVD.
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Откуда: Англия, Бристоль
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Отправлено: 30.10.06 16:26. Заголовок: Re:
I have heard of the Special Sections - I read that one of their duties was to search all the soldiers belongings and pockets before a battle so that they weren't carrying anything that could be a security risk. Edit: Interesting! I thought that SMERSH was entirely NKVD, so the SMERSH officers in 'В августе 44-го' were RKKA SMERSH? I remember one good scene in this film when Kapitan Alyokhin simply holds up his card to this angry General Maior who goes pale and salutes! (My copy has no subtitles - but this is good for learning Russian, since mine is still very very basic! )
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Откуда: Россия, Москва
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Отправлено: 31.10.06 04:35. Заголовок: Re:
In 1943 NKVD was divided into: - NKVD - NKGB (State Security) - Army counterespionage service SMERSH subordinate to NKO (Narkomat Oborony (Defense)) - Navy counterespionage service SMERSH subordinate to NKVMF (Narkomat Voenno-Morskogo Flota (Navy)) NKVD troops and RKM had got their own counterespionage service SMERSH subordinate to NKVD. In 1946 all counterespionage services were subordinated to MGB (Ministry of State Security).
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Откуда: Англия, Бристоль
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Отправлено: 31.10.06 17:08. Заголовок: Re:
And before 1943 I'm guessing counter intelligence was dealt with by the Treetyi Otdyell of the GUGB?
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Откуда: Россия, Москва
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Отправлено: 01.11.06 04:10. Заголовок: Re:
September 1938 - 4th section (otdel) of GUGB February 1941 - section divided into 3rd department (upravlenie) of NKO, 3rd department of NKVMF, 3rd section of NKVD July 1941 - all they combined into Department of Special Sections (Upravlenie osobykh otdelov - UOO) of NKVD (3rd dept. of NKVMF was included in 1942) April 1943 - UOO NKVD divided into Main Department of counter intelligence SMERSH of NKO, Department of counter intelligence SMERSH of NKVMF May 1943 - Section of counter intelligence SMERSH of NKVD established May 1946 - army and navy counter intelligence combined into 3rd Main Department of MGB (former NKGB), MVD (former NKVD) counter intelligence section preserved цитата: | http://russiamilitaria.ru/index.php?showtopic=274&st=0& с 29 сентября 1938 года - 4-й отдел ГУГБ НКВД СССР с 26 февраля 1941 года - 3-е управление НКО СССР, 3-е управление НКВМФ СССР, 3-й отдел НКВД СССР с 31 июля 1941 года - управление особых отделов НКВД СССР с 19 апреля 1943 года - Главное управление контрразведки «Смерш» НКО СССР, управление контрразведки «Смерш» НКВМФ СССР, отдел контрразведки «Смерш» НКВД СССР с 4 мая 1946 года - 3-е Главное управление МГБ СССР и отдел контрразведки МВД СССР |
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Откуда: Англия, Бристоль
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Отправлено: 20.12.06 03:22. Заголовок: Re:
A question about individual SMERSH units... How were they organised? Were they small teams of officers and NCO's who would travel from unit to unit making investigations?
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Откуда: Россия, Москва
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Отправлено: 20.12.06 04:05. Заголовок: Re:
There were SMERSH section in every brigade, division, corps etc. and SMERSH officers in regiments and battalions. There were also: - rifle battalions attached to front SMERSH sections - rifle companies attached to army SMERSH sections - rifle platoons (15 men) attached to corps SMERSH sections - rifle squads (8 men) attached to brigade and division SMERSH sections These rifle platoons and squads were formed in August of 1944.
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