Отправлено: 18.06.07 20:58. Заголовок: Znamye for sale

Someone posted the links to these rather interesting NKVD and MVD znamye that are for sale. Rather good aren't they?

M1942 NKVD Special Forces “OMSBON” flag - SOLD
What makes this flag ultra rare is the unit its for: the 131st NKVD ‘OMSBON’ Regt. These were behind the lines special forces, Spentsnaz, troops. They did commando operations and hunted down important targets. They were very small in number, and thus any flag for them is of the utmost rarity. This is one of those items i do not think i’ll have in again.

http://www.forvalor.com/DougD/Dougimages/F14a.jpg

http://www.forvalor.com/DougD/Dougimages/F14b.jpg

Late 1940’s Awarded Standard to the MGB 62nd Rifle Division - $3900
This is not just a unit flag; this was given by the L’vov Central Committee for the destruction of the UPA ( Ukrainian Partisans) by the MGB (right after the NKVD) under the direction of General Sudaplatov! Flag is an absolutely unique design. Supposedly Khrushchev himself did the awarding of the flag in L’vov in 1950.

http://www.forvalor.com/DougD/Dougimages/F4.jpg

http://www.forvalor.com/DougD/Dougimages/F4b.jpg

I would buy that one myself, but I haven't won the lottery this week - a pity.

 Отправлено: 19.06.07 01:23. Заголовок: Re:

Rob пишет:

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M1942 NKVD Special Forces “OMSBON” flag

 Отправлено: 19.06.07 02:28. Заголовок: Re:

Is the OMSBON flag a fake?

 Отправлено: 19.06.07 12:31. Заголовок: Re:

Саша, прошу пееревести для нашего коллеги Роба:
Оба знамени - редкое... fake
НО! 131-й, да еще и пограничный полк ОМСБОН - это уже выдающийся полет мысли, высший пилотаж!!! Полный нонсенс!

Роб!
в составе Отдельной мотострелковой бригады особого назначения (ОМСБОН) НКВД СССР, образованной в 1941 году (с 1943 г. - Отдельный отряд особого назначения НКГБ СССР) и выполнявшей специальные функции, в том числе и по формированию спецотрядов, спецрезидентур и разведывательно-диверсионных групп для действия в глубоком тылу противника, существовало лишь два полка, но пограничных полков там не было, да и быть никак не могло.

 Отправлено: 21.06.07 17:55. Заголовок: Re:

2Rob
If we are translate it:
Both of znamye's is FAKE! Full shit!
131 OMSBON - it's great joke of all peoples of world! :-))))
The 131 OSMBOD squad not was in real! It's sci-fi! :))

In composition of separate motorifle brigade of special purpose (OMSBON) NKVD USSR, formed in 1941 (on 1943 - Separate squad of special purpose NKGB USSR) and executed special functions (forming special forces, special residents, reconnaissance-sabotagers groups, for action in deep rear of Enemy, was ONLY 2 Divisions!, but there wasn't border regiment, and CAN'T TO BE!

And i see, that the color - is not so good. It's not the material for hornest znamya.

 Отправлено: 21.06.07 21:22. Заголовок: Re:

I though the colour of the 'OMSBON' znamya looked odd - too pink!

And when I looked again and saw the пограничный........

Eeek! And the really frightening thing is had I the money, I would have bought it!

I think this is a lesson I've had for free. Never, ever buy expensive militaria without checking first!

 Отправлено: 22.06.07 15:47. Заголовок: Re:

Yep!
The REAL color of all Flags and znamyas - is Dark red, in russian language is "Alyi"

 Отправлено: 22.06.07 21:04. Заголовок: Re:

Тов.Грибко Alyi is russian equivalent for scarlet, not for dark red.